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Medieval II Total War: Best Strategy Against the Mongols

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Put some longbow men almost right in front of the gate and then put Stakes in the ground so when the Mongols had breached your gates they stormed in and crush to the stakes with your longbows pouring arrows on them.

Gunpowder makes the Mongol armies obsolete. For artillery point them at approximately the middle of the enemy formation. Do not using flaming shot as it makes things too inaccurate. For regular gunpowder units like musketeers, simply have them stand in the front ranks and fire at will or target them at Mongol Heavy Cavalry or Horse Archer units. The musket fire will do a fair amount of damage, they will also decrease the morale of the enemy troops significantly. Make sure you stop your gunpowder units from firing into the backs of your own troops though as that will cause them morale penalties as well. After the initial contact, simply use your musketeers to target either the very back ranks of the enemy or use them as a last ditch effort to hold the line while you flanking the enemies.

If the Mongols bring siege engines, move your archers off the walls directly in front of them and have them shoot from a distance. Fill the holes in your line with your spearmen and watch the slaughter. Get upgraded towers as soon as possible to increase the carnage.

Playing Open Battle

In Medieval II total war do not face the Mongol in plain terrain. Pick rough terrains with trees, hills and mountains. Place your archers and infantry in wooded areas and mountainous ones, this is much more effective against Mongol cavalry.

Put your archers in first line and your foot troops behind them. Turn your archers skirmish mode off. Put horse archers on one flank and your ballista on other flank. Set your ballista to fire at will mode. If you have a lot of horse archer, you can put them on both flanks. Put your cavalry on the flank but slightly behind your horse archer.

Firstly they will attack you with come horse archers. They will do lots of fake charges and will die under a sea of arrows from your archers on higher ground and your flanking horse archer. Wait for the rest of the horde. Do not enter melee combat until you have killed a lot of enemies. When you have killed enough of their army, charge with all your cavalry on units on one side of their line. Use our horse archers to chase routers. After destroy one unit, reform your heavy cavalry and routs next unit.

In field battle beware of flanking cavalry. Try and have a good general with your army and when engaging theirs, always attack and try and kill their general first. If you can kill off that general, the resulting morale loss will help you win the battle.

Other Way To Defeat the Mongol

In Medieval II Total War not every victory should be achieved by a battle. May be you have not enough money to fight the Mongol in field battle, or may be you do not have decent defense at your cities. If you want to avoid fighting, give them a crappy settlement and that way no more hordes will come because they have a new home. Try to form an alliance if possible, as they can be powerful allies. You could also try assassinating their leaders and the hordes will disband. But do not kill the grand Khan with an assassin because more armies will come.

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#1 by warguppy, Dec 24, 2007
I'm eager to try this startegy out against the Mongols.
#2 by blondie, Jan 4, 2008
ive used a similar strategy to this versus the timurids.

it required having a citadel and allowing the first section of it to be taken after having 1 unit on the walls to control the towers long enough.

since the timurids have elephants and lots of artillery this worked well since i just stacked the third and second section walls with archers and i had to do this about 10 times +

but one thing you quickly learn is that u cant rely on the computer to automatically win any defending situation for you lol
#3 by xterminate, Feb 11, 2008
Currently using siege strat against timurids and mongols sim (VH/VH/NOlim civ Denmark at war with e1 pretty much). By far the most advantageous strat in terms of casualties and officers. So long as you have an upgraded (fortress at least) to hold them at. Because of the tendency to siege cities with multiple armies beware of trying to hold a CITY in this fashion for a long time. so far at least, citadel of Thorn has been holding out against the poles/ hungarians; and citadel sarkel against the timurids and mongols.

A seedier strategy is to allow the AI to break your 1st wall in a citadel and positioning your army to defend the 2nd/3rd layers...not only are the towers closer together so more firepower but, as well, so long as you keep the 1st wall unrepaired it nearly guarantees a long traffic jam for your missle troops as well as having the effect of breaking up w/e force is attacking you. Rams can go thru broken gates and walls but towers cant and since the 2nd cit wall is always embanked....just do the math
#4 by RockWoo, May 20, 2008
I trained lot of arab cavalry (80 soldiers,egypt)so i am always using them to crush the mongols.Their archers shocking when they see 2000 of cavalry lol.But u need lot of money to train them.
i have the spanish and anotaloia borders and also nearby cities of jerusalem and moor's region.But all europe is against to me.If there is somebody to this u should take care of this ;)
#5 by apathyboy, May 31, 2008
Mongols are fairly easy to beat even in the field. Playing as the French, a mixed army of a few archers (3-4) some heavy cav (6 at least) and the rest heavy infantry will kill them pretty effectively on open ground. Just form the heavy infantry into one big line (wider than the mongol front), and charge forwards, with cav on the flanks and archers directly behind. Wing the cavalry out to kill any archers flanking the main line/disrupt cavalry charges into your own flanks. The enemy infantry archers will usually either stay to duke it out, or be too disorganized to retreat properly, and will get overwhelmed and start trying to melee with your (much better) infantry. Pull the cavalry around and in from the flanks and rear to slow the archers down if they're still trying to retreat, or to surround them if they're standing and fighting. Use the archers to pincushion the enemy general or any horse archers that are bothering your infantry.

your cavalry will probably get raped, since they have to be the blocking force and stay in contact rather than charging in and out of battle, but its still cheaper and more versatile than having an all cavalry army

Remember to execute the prisoners too, no point in fighting soldiers twice, and they're filthy heathens to boot. Nothing says "leave my country alone" like a dozen princes and generals named "_____ the Merciless"
#6 by Mishkawy, Jun 3, 2008
this really helps allot but I don't think its that easy if you are Egypt as you are the first to face the Mongols and you wont discover gunpowder before they come. is there a certain way to fight them if you are Egypt?
#7 by MacArthur, Jun 13, 2008
If u r low on money and u dont no this yet press ` and type in add_money 40000 and press the up arrow and enter until u have as much money as u want. I dont no if there is a certain way to fight the mongols if u r egypt. my adivice is to find a strategy that works and stick with it. If u need help with choosing units just choose quality over quantity
#8 by MacArthur, Jun 13, 2008
there is a way that u can win every time using auto resolve press ` and type in auto_win defender if u r the defender or attcker if u r attcking. if u dont no who is the defender or who is the attacker. the is the person getting attacked, if u r seiging a place and they come out and attack u. u r the defender. if u r on some ones land and they attack u. u r the defender
#9 by Duder, Jun 15, 2008
as egypt I do half horses archers and half royal mamluks or normal mamluks. you can even have 3/4 of horse archers. This doesnt work againts the timurid elephants. Use your horse archers to kill theirs. you put you melee cavalry as far as the enemy as possible. inflict as much damage with your horse archers dont worry about your casulties do hit and run and bring them to you heavy cavalry. Try to kill as much heavy lancers as you can with your horse archers cause they are the best cavalry of the game.Ho ya ,never sacrifice your generals just retreat them. I always play at very hard setting.
#10 by DCD, Jun 17, 2008
It works to a exstent if your agant the mongols it should go fine if your have a citatal or huge city or fortress or minor city but the timrods tend to break the wall with there arilary
#11 by John, Jun 17, 2008
Mongal infentry genraly cant meet up to the knights of the west but there cavirly are like a wall so spear men are your best bet (never auto_resolve agnist either)
#12 by Bob, Jun 30, 2008
one of my favorite things do do against the mongols/timurds (this requires ALOT of moneybut works out well) is to bribe their generals away you have to have an xperinced diplomat tho but you destroy a mongol army and you got a awesome general but you cant bribe away the khan and khanzada but they usually have the weaker armys which can be easily destroyed :)
#13 by Jake, Aug 8, 2008
Hmmmmmmm... All these tips may work, but what I like to do while defending a settlement under siege is to attack them before they attack you.

- Group all your infantry at the gates.
- If the enemy has less archers than you, send your archers just past the main gate and open fire. The AI will automatically pull its troops back and in some cases you can kill off 40% of your opponent without resistance.
- Then when cavalry charges your missile troops, send them back on the walls and place your infantry where the archers once were.

Hope this helps :)
#14 by Chief, Aug 12, 2008
So lets say you own Baghdad and you are being attacked by the mongols, but you keep beating them, and dont let them take the city. Will they keep sending new armies till they take it?
#15 by cooldude, Aug 31, 2008
Its easy to beat mongols with byzantines just hit them with your cavalry and use your latinkon and spearmen to take the bulk with the cavalry going around and smash them in the back (try not to get a general to fight to the death)
#16 by Ayuoobi, Sep 6, 2008
hey i was wondering how big can you make your army max? because i saw a guy who posted that he had 2000 cav, is this through reinforcements or is there a way to maximize your army capacity?
#17 by Hussar , Sep 10, 2008
I beat the whole mongol army befor all on open feild when i was useing poland on hard. i sent my top 4 generals filled up all armys with only calvary and horse calvary and attacked one or two armys at a time, sometimes even auto resolved. The mongols didnt even get a city, other then the ones they sacked in eastern russia, btw i didnt use money cheats i had the money be sending crusades at the begining of the campain and sacked every city in egypt and turk's i had about 150000 florins from that, which is also a good stragety to get money without hacking.
#18 by qwerty, Sep 28, 2008
Against the Mongols I produce infantry and archer heavy armies because if you go into their territory with a big army you can entice them into attacking you on advantageous ground - especially if they have superior numbers. Just make a big batch of high-grade foot troops (dismounted anything), a bunch of archers and a few cavalry units to run down the routed units, and maneuver them onto advantageous ground. Wash rinse repeat [=
#19 by tfa, Oct 10, 2008
Recently I have been playing the turks and egyptians - so the mongols are a pain.

I play an unpatched version of the game - so I am unsure if these tactics works on the patched version.

My strategy was basically this - take Baghdad as qucikly as possible and build ballista towers. Then garrison it with as many archers as you can.

When the mongols arrive get them to besiege the city, and launch a sally attack. Line the walls with archers and then sit back and let the towers wipe out he besiegers.

At the same time I built up large reserves of horse archers. These were used to track the mongols and I only offered battle at bridges.

In an open battle I adopted the tactic of ordering the archers to hold their ground. That way they had usually killed the infantry and the mongol archers at about the time the arrows ran out. And then I launched mass attacks on single units - generals if possible - in the hope of overwhelming the units.

Both of these tactics work pretty well - especially the sally - since generally you kill the enemy and don't lose a single man.
#20 by Mongols, Oct 27, 2008
In Medieval II, the Mongols are best land army as were they.
#21 by dffdyt, Nov 8, 2008
capture islands in the mediterannean seas. sell one to the mongols so it becomes their capital and you get some money. wage war to ensure they dont capture mainland territory so any family members must be born on the island (keep a spy here to monitor this). wipe out mainland armies. then take out island that you gave them and no more mongols. also good for timurids

also having fleets of 20 ships placed over the green arrows at constantinople and cordoba is good way to allow access to only your own armies. enemy armies cannot cross this blockade.
that is also useful for stopping crusaders and jihads depending on who you play as

capturing the english/scottish lands are good for financial backing. they have the protection of the sea. set those to auto manage building as finacial setting. build a garrison in the towns as yo get free upkeep units and one or two peasanets in the castles as they cheepest units for upkeep.
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#23 by bahrbarian, Dec 1, 2008
ya i was the turks this onetime and i conquered the whole world without cheats wich was pretty awsome. But when the mongols and timuriuds came i would draw them into attacking one of my cities or castles and i put naffauton and jannisary musket guys on the walls and it worked like a charm.
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